[CivicAccess-discuss] copyright issues with extracting data from city report

[Tracey P. Lauriault]

Thanks Reggie!

I'll ask around, and I have bcc someone who knows these things and hope they
will respond.  I feel the same way about the last two questions as well, and
I am also not sure the official's response is correct either.  She sent you
the copyright act but did she send you anything about licenses?

hmmm.

Cheers
t

On Tue, Aug 12, 2008 at 8:47 AM, Regie Alam <regie_alam at rogers.com> wrote:

>
> Hello Tracey,
>
> Please find my answers embedded below.
>
> Thanks,
> Regie
>
>
> --- "Tracey P. Lauriault" <tlauriau at gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > Regie;
> >
> > That is a really interesting question.  I am not an
> > expert in this area
> > however here are some of questions worth
> > answering/considering.  There are a
> > few experts who have some knowledge in this area on
> > the list:
> >
> > 1. What exactly was the report authors response?
>
> I haven't contacted the author yet. I did contact the
> city staff that was listed as the contact person for
> the project
> (
> http://www.ottawa.ca/residents/environment/city_hall/getgreen/greenspace/evaluation_study_en.html
> ).
>
> Her response was that the city won't be able to
> support the use of city information in another form on
> the internet.
>
> > 2. This is a value added exercise, it is for non
> > commercial
> > purposes,correct?
>
> Yes, it is for non-commercial use.
>
> > 3. you are using the original dataset simply for
> > reference purposes correct?
>
> The boundaries of the Urban Natural Areas are in .pdf
> format which are contained in a report. I am
> digitizing the boundaries based on these .pdf files.
> So, yes the maps are for reference purposes but I'm
> also digitizing the actual boundaries (my digitized
> boundaries would be similar to their boundaries).
>
> > 4. You are creating a new dataset based on the base
> > map reference. correct?
>
> The vector maps that will be the result of my
> digitizing would presumably be similar to the ones
> they have (if indeed they have a vector dataset).
>
> > 5. Were you going to share the file under a cc
> > license at all?  Were you
> > going to attribute the refence dataset you are
> > digitizing from (i.e. in the
> > metadata etc.)?
>
> Yes.
>
> > 6. You are not selling this information, correct?
>
> No, I won't be selling the information.
>
> > 7. Is the contractor's report a public document?
>
> I think it is. I actually got hold of the report from
> the public library. The whole report including the
> maps were in CDs at the back of the report so I copied
> everything and did the digitizing at home.
>
>
> > 8.  do those boundary files only exist in that
> > report or do they exist
> > elsewhere?
>
> I am not sure if the dataset also exist somewhere
> else.
>
> > 9. Does the city have that dataset?
>
> I am not sure. I will ask the contact person.
>
> > 10. You are replicating a file, in other words you
> > are replicating a
> > pre-existing work which means making a copy but in
> > another software.  Would
> > this be analogous to re-typing a quote from a book
> > in a new format?
>
> I'd like to find out if that is the case.
>
> > 11.  Who has the original copyright for that?  The
> > report authors or the
> > city?
>
> I'd like to find out this one too.
>
> >
> > Can anyone else help?
> >
> > Tracey
> >
> >
> > On Mon, Aug 11, 2008 at 12:07 PM, Regie Alam
> > <regie_alam at rogers.com> wrote:
> >
> > > Hello everyone,
> > >
> > >   My name is Regie Alam. I work as a GIS Data
> > Analyst
> > > at Terrapoint in Ottawa. I just signed up to the
> > > mailing list and this is my first post.
> > >
> > >   I am in the process of digitizing boundaries of
> > > Urban Natural Areas in Ottawa. I'm digitizing off
> > maps
> > > contained in a report made by a contractor to the
> > City
> > > of Ottawa. My intent is to display the digitized
> > maps
> > > on the internet using a webmapping program or
> > Google
> > > Earth.
> > >
> > >   This is not a commercial endeavour but just a
> > way
> > > to make the data more accessible (through
> > webmapping
> > > platform).
> > >
> > >   What are the copyright issues involved with
> > this?
> > > What about specifically for extracting (and
> > presenting
> > > the data in another medium) data/maps off a report
> > to
> > > the city?
> > >
> > >   I already contacted the contact person for the
> > > report and she said the city won't be able to
> > support
> > > this project. She also gave me a snippet of the
> > > Canadian Copyright Law regarding the internet and
> > > copyright.
> > >
> > > Thanks,
> > > Regie
> > >
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> > --
> > Tracey P. Lauriault
> > 613-234-2805
> >
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Tracey P. Lauriault
613-234-2805
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