[CivicAccess-discuss] copyright issues with extracting data from city report

Thu Aug 14 08:26:54 EDT 2008

How about next week sometime?  Wednesday?

On Thu, Aug 14, 2008 at 8:22 AM, Regie Alam <regie_alam at rogers.com> wrote:

>
> Hi Tracey,
>
>   Yes, I'm in Ottawa. I would be interested in a
> meeting.
>
> Regie
>
> --- "Tracey P. Lauriault" <tlauriau at gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > That is awesome Heather!
> >
> > Regie are you in Ottawa?  if so did you want to meet
> > up and discuss some
> > possible ideas and next steps?
> >
> > Anyone else on the list in Ottawa interested in
> > this?
> >
> > Cheers
> > t
> >
> > On Wed, Aug 13, 2008 at 12:04 PM, Heather Morrison
> > <heatherm at eln.bc.ca>wrote:
> >
> > > hi everyone ~
> > >
> > > If it is timely to push for policies to promote OA
> > of public data, the
> > > library community may be able to help, e.g.
> > writing letters of support for
> > > an OA policy.  I work with the Canadian Library
> > Association in this area,
> > > and would be happy to draft a letter of support.
> > >
> > > Public data policies need to address privacy
> > concerns as well as open
> > > access; it is a good idea to address this from the
> > outset, otherwise policy
> > > development could be slowed down.
> > >
> > > Any opinion expressed in this e-mail is that of
> > the author alone, and does
> > > not represent the opinion or policy of BC
> > Electronic Library Network or
> > > Simon Fraser University Library.
> > >
> > > Heather Morrison, MLIS
> > > The Imaginary Journal of Poetic Economics
> > > http://poeticeconomics.blogspot.com
> > >
> > >
> > > On 13-Aug-08, at 5:04 AM, Regie Alam wrote:
> > >
> > >
> > >> Hello Tracey,
> > >>
> > >>   Thanks for looking into this. Yes, I'll
> > definitely
> > >> pursue this. I have a feeling that the city do
> > not
> > >> have official policies with things like this. It
> > might
> > >> be ripe for pushing for policies that promote
> > open
> > >> access of city data to the public.
> > >>
> > >> Regie
> > >>
> > >>
> > >> --- "Tracey P. Lauriault" <tlauriau at gmail.com>
> > wrote:
> > >>
> > >>  I went and looked at the  *T*HE DISSEMINATION OF
> > >>> GOVERNMENT *GEOGRAPHIC DATA
> > >>> IN CANADA** GUIDE TO BEST PRACTICES -
> > >>>
> > >>>
> >
> http://www.geoconnections.org/publications/Best_practices_guide/
> > >> html/summary_e.html
> > >>
> > >>>
> > >>> *I perused the pdf document -
> > >>>
> > >>>
> >
> http://www.geoconnections.org/publications/Best_practices_guide/
> > >> Guide_to_Best_Practices_v12_finale_e.pdf
> > >>
> > >>> *
> > >>>
> > >>> Read Chapter 3 & 4, particularly sections -
> > >>> 4.1.2 (i) Contour of Copyright Protection (ii)
> > >>> Derived Works
> > >>> 4.1.3 Raw Data is not Protected under the
> > Copyright
> > >>> Act
> > >>> 4.1.4 Data Sets as Protected Compilations under
> > the
> > >>> Copyright Act
> > >>> Case Study Compilation
> > >>>
> > >>> *There is some ambiguity.  It is interesting to
> > note
> > >>> that the government is
> > >>> producing data for the best interest of the
> > >>> government and for government
> > >>> use but not necessarily for the public it
> > >>> represents.  I believe we have a
> > >>> public access / use issue, when it comes to
> > >>> government and the copyright act
> > >>> i believe we need to push for more progressive
> > >>> licensing.  This document
> > >>> also contains references to the federal TBS
> > >>> policies, Communications
> > >>> Policies etc. in *section 3* that are worth
> > reading.
> > >>>  You will note that I
> > >>> sent a question regarding provincial and
> > territorial
> > >>> regulations etc.
> > >>> Finally, this is an interesting case and Regie,
> > I
> > >>> hope you will continue to
> > >>> pursue it.  See if the City has that vector file
> > and
> > >>> see if they will share
> > >>> it and if then lets see where to go next.
> > >>>
> > >>> Cheers
> > >>> Tracey
> > >>>
> > >>> *
> > >>>
> > >>>
> > >>> *On Tue, Aug 12, 2008 at 9:01 AM, Tracey P.
> > >>> Lauriault <tlauriau at gmail.com>wrote:
> > >>>
> > >>>  Thanks Reggie!
> > >>>>
> > >>>> I'll ask around, and I have bcc someone who
> > knows
> > >>>>
> > >>> these things and hope
> > >>>
> > >>>> they will respond.  I feel the same way about
> > the
> > >>>>
> > >>> last two questions as
> > >>>
> > >>>> well, and I am also not sure the official's
> > >>>>
> > >>> response is correct either.  She
> > >>>
> > >>>> sent you the copyright act but did she send you
> > >>>>
> > >>> anything about licenses?
> > >>>
> > >>>>
> > >>>> hmmm.
> > >>>>
> > >>>> Cheers
> > >>>> t
> > >>>>
> > >>>>
> > >>>> On Tue, Aug 12, 2008 at 8:47 AM, Regie Alam
> > >>>>
> > >>> <regie_alam at rogers.com> wrote:
> > >>>
> > >>>>
> > >>>>
> > >>>>> Hello Tracey,
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>> Please find my answers embedded below.
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>> Thanks,
> > >>>>> Regie
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>> --- "Tracey P. Lauriault" <tlauriau at gmail.com>
> > >>>>>
> > >>>> wrote:
> > >>>
> > >>>>
> > >>>>>  Regie;
> > >>>>>>
> > >>>>>> That is a really interesting question.  I am
> > >>>>>>
> > >>>>> not an
> > >>>
> > >>>> expert in this area
> > >>>>>> however here are some of questions worth
> > >>>>>> answering/considering.  There are a
> > >>>>>> few experts who have some knowledge in this
> > >>>>>>
> > >>>>> area on
> > >>>
> > >>>> the list:
> > >>>>>>
> > >>>>>> 1. What exactly was the report authors
> > >>>>>>
> > >>>>> response?
> > >>>
> > >>>>
> > >>>>> I haven't contacted the author yet. I did
> > contact
> > >>>>>
> > >>>> the
> > >>>
> > >>>> city staff that was listed as the contact
> > person
> > >>>>>
> >
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