[CivicAccess-discuss] copyright issues with extracting data from city report

Tue Aug 19 18:13:31 EDT 2008

Hey Regie!  where would you like to meet?  Are you in the downtown area?
Anyone else like to join?  I am thinking around 5 or 6 pm.  Location tbd!

On Fri, Aug 15, 2008 at 4:24 PM, Regie Alam <regie_alam at rogers.com> wrote:

>
> Hi Tracey,
>
>   I should be ok with Wednesday next week. Let me
> know when and where (preferably after I get off work
> at 3:30pm).
>
> Regie
>
>
> --- "Tracey P. Lauriault" <tlauriau at gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > How about next week sometime?  Wednesday?
> >
> > On Thu, Aug 14, 2008 at 8:22 AM, Regie Alam
> > <regie_alam at rogers.com> wrote:
> >
> > >
> > > Hi Tracey,
> > >
> > >   Yes, I'm in Ottawa. I would be interested in a
> > > meeting.
> > >
> > > Regie
> > >
> > > --- "Tracey P. Lauriault" <tlauriau at gmail.com>
> > wrote:
> > >
> > > > That is awesome Heather!
> > > >
> > > > Regie are you in Ottawa?  if so did you want to
> > meet
> > > > up and discuss some
> > > > possible ideas and next steps?
> > > >
> > > > Anyone else on the list in Ottawa interested in
> > > > this?
> > > >
> > > > Cheers
> > > > t
> > > >
> > > > On Wed, Aug 13, 2008 at 12:04 PM, Heather
> > Morrison
> > > > <heatherm at eln.bc.ca>wrote:
> > > >
> > > > > hi everyone ~
> > > > >
> > > > > If it is timely to push for policies to
> > promote OA
> > > > of public data, the
> > > > > library community may be able to help, e.g.
> > > > writing letters of support for
> > > > > an OA policy.  I work with the Canadian
> > Library
> > > > Association in this area,
> > > > > and would be happy to draft a letter of
> > support.
> > > > >
> > > > > Public data policies need to address privacy
> > > > concerns as well as open
> > > > > access; it is a good idea to address this from
> > the
> > > > outset, otherwise policy
> > > > > development could be slowed down.
> > > > >
> > > > > Any opinion expressed in this e-mail is that
> > of
> > > > the author alone, and does
> > > > > not represent the opinion or policy of BC
> > > > Electronic Library Network or
> > > > > Simon Fraser University Library.
> > > > >
> > > > > Heather Morrison, MLIS
> > > > > The Imaginary Journal of Poetic Economics
> > > > > http://poeticeconomics.blogspot.com
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > On 13-Aug-08, at 5:04 AM, Regie Alam wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >> Hello Tracey,
> > > > >>
> > > > >>   Thanks for looking into this. Yes, I'll
> > > > definitely
> > > > >> pursue this. I have a feeling that the city
> > do
> > > > not
> > > > >> have official policies with things like this.
> > It
> > > > might
> > > > >> be ripe for pushing for policies that promote
> > > > open
> > > > >> access of city data to the public.
> > > > >>
> > > > >> Regie
> > > > >>
> > > > >>
> > > > >> --- "Tracey P. Lauriault"
> > <tlauriau at gmail.com>
> > > > wrote:
> > > > >>
> > > > >>  I went and looked at the  *T*HE
> > DISSEMINATION OF
> > > > >>> GOVERNMENT *GEOGRAPHIC DATA
> > > > >>> IN CANADA** GUIDE TO BEST PRACTICES -
> > > > >>>
> > > > >>>
> > > >
> > >
> >
> http://www.geoconnections.org/publications/Best_practices_guide/
> > > > >> html/summary_e.html
> > > > >>
> > > > >>>
> > > > >>> *I perused the pdf document -
> > > > >>>
> > > > >>>
> > > >
> > >
> >
> http://www.geoconnections.org/publications/Best_practices_guide/
> > > > >> Guide_to_Best_Practices_v12_finale_e.pdf
> > > > >>
> > > > >>> *
> > > > >>>
> > > > >>> Read Chapter 3 & 4, particularly sections -
> > > > >>> 4.1.2 (i) Contour of Copyright Protection
> > (ii)
> > > > >>> Derived Works
> > > > >>> 4.1.3 Raw Data is not Protected under the
> > > > Copyright
> > > > >>> Act
> > > > >>> 4.1.4 Data Sets as Protected Compilations
> > under
> > > > the
> > > > >>> Copyright Act
> > > > >>> Case Study Compilation
> > > > >>>
> > > > >>> *There is some ambiguity.  It is interesting
> > to
> > > > note
> > > > >>> that the government is
> > > > >>> producing data for the best interest of the
> > > > >>> government and for government
> > > > >>> use but not necessarily for the public it
> > > > >>> represents.  I believe we have a
> > > > >>> public access / use issue, when it comes to
> > > > >>> government and the copyright act
> > > > >>> i believe we need to push for more
> > progressive
> > > > >>> licensing.  This document
> > > > >>> also contains references to the federal TBS
> > > > >>> policies, Communications
> > > > >>> Policies etc. in *section 3* that are worth
> > > > reading.
> > > > >>>  You will note that I
> > > > >>> sent a question regarding provincial and
> > > > territorial
> > > > >>> regulations etc.
> > > > >>> Finally, this is an interesting case and
> > Regie,
> > > > I
> > > > >>> hope you will continue to
> > > > >>> pursue it.  See if the City has that vector
> > file
> > > > and
> > > > >>> see if they will share
> > > > >>> it and if then lets see where to go next.
> > > > >>>
> > > > >>> Cheers
> > > > >>> Tracey
> > > > >>>
> > > > >>> *
> > > > >>>
> > > > >>>
> > > > >>> *On Tue, Aug 12, 2008 at 9:01 AM, Tracey P.
> > > > >>> Lauriault <tlauriau at gmail.com>wrote:
> > > > >>>
> > > > >>>  Thanks Reggie!
> > > > >>>>
> > > > >>>> I'll ask around, and I have bcc someone who
> > > > knows
> > > > >>>>
> > > > >>> these things and hope
> > > > >>>
> > > > >>>> they will respond.  I feel the same way
> > about
> > > > the
> > > > >>>>
> > > > >>> last two questions as
> > > > >>>
> > > > >>>> well, and I am also not sure the official's
> > > > >>>>
> > > > >>> response is correct either.  She
> > > > >>>
> > > > >>>> sent you the copyright act but did she send
> > you
> > > > >>>>
> > > > >>> anything about licenses?
> > > > >>>
> > > > >>>>
> > > > >>>> hmmm.
> > > > >>>>
> > > > >>>> Cheers
> > > > >>>> t
> > > > >>>>
> > > > >>>>
> > > > >>>> On Tue, Aug 12, 2008 at 8:47 AM, Regie Alam
> > > > >>>>
> > > > >>> <regie_alam at rogers.com> wrote:
> > > > >>>
> > > > >>>>
> > > > >>>>
> > > > >>>>> Hello Tracey,
> > > > >>>>>
> >
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Tracey P. Lauriault
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