[CivicAccess-discuss] Guerilla Open Access

[Tracey P. Lauriault]

I believe folks are helping our Canadian democratic system be, well,
democratic, by making it easier for citizens to find their MPs.

The NIH public access mandate, if i am not mistaken, is primarily about
journal articles and not necessarily the data that are used to create them
unless they are included as a PDF appendix in the article.  OA movements in
general, if i am not mistaken, are about published material and i think
there is a different batch of folks working on public data which include
socio-demographic, digital maps, framework data and a host of scientific
data from both the natural and social sciences.  Both are complimentary
movements and at some point it might be good to pool resources.

Also, I think it is ok to focus on the Canadian elections and not
necessarily the US opposition!

cheers
t



On Tue, Sep 23, 2008 at 2:33 PM, Heather Morrison <heatherm at eln.bc.ca>wrote:

> As an illustration of why the legislation is needed.  A bad and totally
> inappropriate example, but might convince a busy legislator who doesn't
> really have time to read and think about the details of every piece of
> legislation that comes their way.
>
> One way to explain:  the argument that the "N" in NIH (US National
> Institutes of Health) should not stand for "Napster" is being used to fight
> the NIH Public Access Mandate.  Ridiculous, of course, but anyone who has
> followed OA advocacy over the years knows that logic is not a requirement of
> the anti-OA lobby for its arguments.
>
> Any legislator who understands copyright, does a thorough reading and is
> making decisions based on what makes sense (as opposed to who to contibuting
> to the campaign expenses), is not supporting this bill, anyway...
>
> best,
>
> h
>
>
> On 23-Sep-08, at 11:25 AM, Daniel Haran wrote:
>
>  On Tue, Sep 23, 2008 at 2:12 PM, Heather Morrison <heatherm at eln.bc.ca>
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Re:  scraping and infringing and telling everyone - please note that OA
>>> advocates in the U.S. are battling a concerted effort by the anti-OA
>>> publishing lobby to basically change U.S. copyright law to prevent public
>>> access mandates to federally funded research.  The Conyers bill is nuts,
>>> but
>>> could easily get slipped into another bill and passed.
>>>
>>> This is not a great time to be public about infringing; this would help
>>> the
>>> opposition.
>>>
>>> Not that I'm against this approach altogether, just not the best timing.
>>>
>>> best,
>>>
>>> Heather Morrison
>>>
>>
>> How would this help the opposition?
>>
>> d.
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