[CivicAccess-discuss] MP Postal Code Lookups

[Jennifer Bell]

Personally, because I like to be safe, I would also link back to the original licenses.  Then you would be doing everything humanly possible.

I think it's wonderful that it's only $150 for the maps *and* they included a clause about an online lookup service.  Wow!  

If you need real (but probably non-binding) legal advice for this, let me know.  

Jennifer 
http://visiblegovernment.ca

--- On Fri, 2/26/10, Cory Horner <cory2070 at canoe42.ca> wrote:

> From: Cory Horner <cory2070 at canoe42.ca>
> Subject: Re: [CivicAccess-discuss] MP Postal Code Lookups
> To: "civicaccess discuss" <civicaccess-discuss at civicaccess.ca>
> Received: Friday, February 26, 2010, 4:34 AM
> On 2010-02-25, at 11:02 AM, Jennifer
> Bell wrote:
> 
> > One suggestion: Could you make the service licensing
> more clear on the site that describes the API?
> 
> Good point.
> 
> This will get complicated fast, as each API call may have a
> different license depending on the data sources. 
> Limiting our scope to the MP postal code lookup, it also
> gets weird as there are 2 licenses to merge, and this is a
> derivative work (postal code is used to find a riding which
> is used to find attributes for the MP, and only the
> attributes for the MP are returned).
> 
> For the postal code data, I am constrained as follows:
> 
> "You may not make the Data publicly available in easily
> downloadable format (i.e. PKZip files or static HTML pages)
> on public network such as bulletin boards, online services,
> or the internet.  However, the Data may be used on
> public networks (i.e. the internet) if used within a 'Lookup
> Application' and a reasonable daily limit of queries per IP
> address is imposed."
> 
> For the riding boundaries:
> 
> "The Licensee shall ensure that the following copyright
> notice appears in an
> appropriate and visible location in the Licensee's Product,
> where any of the Work 
> is contained within the Product '© The federal Electoral
> Districts Boundaries (Representation Order 2003) and Polling
> Division
> Boundaries (39th General Election), Elections Canada. 
> All rights reserved. Reproduced with the
> permission of Elections Canada, Ottawa, Ontario K1A 0M6
> Canada (2007).'"
> 
> I'm happy to put such a note on my website, since I want to
> applaud their data sharing practices (and their work is
> technically "in" my site), but I don't think users of the
> API would be bound by this, as no elections canada "works"
> are included in the data they got (it was just used as an
> intermediary step).
> 
> The How'd They Vote license is effectively "do anything you
> want, but be aware of the original license of the source
> data".  I consider the MP basic attributes (name,
> riding, phone number, website, ...) to be public domain
> facts, so no problem there.
> 
> Taking these all together, I would think there shouldn't be
> a problem storing the result of a postal code lookup in your
> database, but you probably can't republish the data with the
> postal code attached.
> 
> Do you guys agree with this assessment? If so, how might we
> boil this down to a concise terms of use?
> 
> Thanks,
> Cory.
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